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Hello all,

I found a copy of "Communication Systems" by Haykin in Everitt on
Friday. If anyone has lost this book, please contact me by email.

-dan

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Hi all,
Here are a few corrections in the previous homeworks and  a clarification
for the next one.

1. HW#5, Q 5.3b) The correct answer is beta=5/4. The expression given in
the soln is off by a factor of 2*pi.

2. HW #6, Q 6.3) P(error) should be 0.51 and not 0.66. The last entry was
misread as 0.05 instead on 0.20

Clarification for HW#7, problems 7.5 and 7.6
The joint pdf is zero in all the regions where it is not specified.

..vikas 

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A quick question:

In lecuture, we said that the QAM encoding of g_i(t) and g_q(t) (in-phase
and quadrature components, respectively) was given by

g(t) = g_i(t)*cos(w_c*t) - g_q(t)*sin(w_c*t).

I think that this is responsible for the nice property that

CplxEnvelope( g(t) ) = g_i(t) + j*g_q(t)

However, this does not look the same as presented in the Lathi (page 170),
where he uses

m1(t) defined to be "in-phase channel" e.g.  g_i(t)
m2(t) defined to be "quadrature channel" e.g.  g_q(t)

and then defines the QAM modulated signal g(t) to be:

g(t) = m1(t)*cos(w_c*t) + m2(t)*sin(w_c*t)
equivalently,
g(t) = g_i(t)*cos(w_c*t) + g_q(t)*sin(w_c*t)

Which leads to

CplxEnvelope( g(t) ) = g_i(t) - j*g_q(t)

Of course the definitions are somewhat arbitrary, but for purposes of this
course, which ought we use?

Thanks,
Mark Brady



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>From a previous class QAM= symbols/sec If it means the same thing here i
hope this helps.
-Rob

Mark Brady <mhbrady@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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> A quick question:
>
> In lecuture, we said that the QAM encoding of g_i(t) and g_q(t) (in-phase
> and quadrature components, respectively) was given by
>
> g(t) = g_i(t)*cos(w_c*t) - g_q(t)*sin(w_c*t).
>
> I think that this is responsible for the nice property that
>
> CplxEnvelope( g(t) ) = g_i(t) + j*g_q(t)
>
> However, this does not look the same as presented in the Lathi (page 170),
> where he uses
>
> m1(t) defined to be "in-phase channel" e.g.  g_i(t)
> m2(t) defined to be "quadrature channel" e.g.  g_q(t)
>
> and then defines the QAM modulated signal g(t) to be:
>
> g(t) = m1(t)*cos(w_c*t) + m2(t)*sin(w_c*t)
> equivalently,
> g(t) = g_i(t)*cos(w_c*t) + g_q(t)*sin(w_c*t)
>
> Which leads to
>
> CplxEnvelope( g(t) ) = g_i(t) - j*g_q(t)
>
> Of course the definitions are somewhat arbitrary, but for purposes of this
> course, which ought we use?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark Brady
>
>
>


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Mark,

I agree, there seems to be a discrepancy between the two definitions.  The
thing to remember though is that QAM is dealing with two DIFFERENT signals
(m1(t) and m2(t)), whereas the expression for g(t) in terms of its
in-phase and quadrature-phase components was DERIVED after defining the
complex envelop and its real and imaginary parts (g_i(t) and g_q(t)
respectively).

So, the discrepancy (if any) is in the definition of g_q(t) as the
quadrature component.

I hope this helps.

C. Hadjicostis.


PS:  I will talk about QAM on Thursday's lecture.


On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Rob Wade wrote:

> From a previous class QAM= symbols/sec If it means the same thing here i
> hope this helps.
> -Rob
> 
> Mark Brady <mhbrady@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
> news:2mRx5.841$rr.17563@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
> > A quick question:
> >
> > In lecuture, we said that the QAM encoding of g_i(t) and g_q(t) (in-phase
> > and quadrature components, respectively) was given by
> >
> > g(t) = g_i(t)*cos(w_c*t) - g_q(t)*sin(w_c*t).
> >
> > I think that this is responsible for the nice property that
> >
> > CplxEnvelope( g(t) ) = g_i(t) + j*g_q(t)
> >
> > However, this does not look the same as presented in the Lathi (page 170),
> > where he uses
> >
> > m1(t) defined to be "in-phase channel" e.g.  g_i(t)
> > m2(t) defined to be "quadrature channel" e.g.  g_q(t)
> >
> > and then defines the QAM modulated signal g(t) to be:
> >
> > g(t) = m1(t)*cos(w_c*t) + m2(t)*sin(w_c*t)
> > equivalently,
> > g(t) = g_i(t)*cos(w_c*t) + g_q(t)*sin(w_c*t)
> >
> > Which leads to
> >
> > CplxEnvelope( g(t) ) = g_i(t) - j*g_q(t)
> >
> > Of course the definitions are somewhat arbitrary, but for purposes of this
> > course, which ought we use?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark Brady
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Hello all,
Last year's Exam 1 has now been posted on the courses web page. There is
an "Old_exams" button at the bottom of the webpage which can lead you to
it. Or the complete address is :
http://www.ece.uiuc.edu/ece359/old_exams/old_exams.html
Enjoy..
..vikas


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I don't remeber any changes to what is on the information sheet or the web
page but I must double check that it is on Tuesday the 12th at 1:30pm in 161
EL.
Thanks




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How do you calculate Half Power bandwith? Do you just take the fourier
transform and solve for |F(w)| > 1/Sqrt[2]?

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Hi Mike,

"Half-power" and "3db bandwidth" are the same.  You need to find w_c such
that |f(w_c)| = 1/sqrt(2) |f(w_peak)| (where |f(w_peak)| is the maximum
value of the amplitude of the Fourier transform.

C. Hadjicostis

On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Mike Perry wrote:

> How do you calculate Half Power bandwith? Do you just take the fourier
> transform and solve for |F(w)| > 1/Sqrt[2]?
> 
> -- 
> Mike Perry
> http://so.fscked.org
> 
> 

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If you cannot prove this result mathematically and rigorously, do not
bother much. A graphical illustration with explnations will be good enough
for this particular problem.
..vikas

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Hello All,
A clarification to HW5, prob 5 :
Prob 5.3 c) The expression s_tilde(t) does not denote the complex
envelope. It is simply the expression for narrowband FM. You just have to
plot the magnitude of the fourier transform of the given expression. Also
read |S_tilde(f)| as |S_tilde(w)|.
Good luck.
..vikas

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I am trying to use x+(t) = x(t) + jxh(t), but getting xh(t) is causing me
problems.

Are we supposed to express the result in terms of m(t) and mh(t)? If
not, how do we take the hilbert transform of the sinc function? And what are
the rules for the hilbert transform of mh(t)*sin(wot)?


Am I making this too hard? I was thinking of trying to transform x(t) into X(w)
and see what I could do that way, but that didn't seem like it would help
since part b asks for that result after part a.


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Mike Perry
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Hi Mike,

You can keep the answer in terms of mh(t), i.e., you do not have to
explicitly solve for the Hilbert transform of a sinc.  You may want to
think about how you would do that though!

C. Hadjicostis



On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Mike Perry wrote:

> I am trying to use x+(t) = x(t) + jxh(t), but getting xh(t) is causing me
> problems.
> 
> Are we supposed to express the result in terms of m(t) and mh(t)? If
> not, how do we take the hilbert transform of the sinc function? And what are
> the rules for the hilbert transform of mh(t)*sin(wot)?
> 
> 
> Am I making this too hard? I was thinking of trying to transform x(t) into X(w)
> and see what I could do that way, but that didn't seem like it would help
> since part b asks for that result after part a.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mike Perry
> http://so.fscked.org
> 
> 

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Ok, so I have another barrage of last minute questions:
1. In problem 3.1, I'm getting Acos(Wot)*Acos(Wot) after I simplify. From
looking at the convolution integral, that looks infinite. Looking at it in
fourier domain, it aprears to be just A^2cos(Wot)... I'm way off track here,
aren't I?

2. Say I have a signal with baseband -B to B. When talking in terms of low 
pass filters, is the bandwith of a filter that would allow such a signal B, or
2B? And do you say a LPF of 0 to B? or a LPF of -B to B?

3. How come I'm the only one to post HW questions to the newsgroup? ;)

-- 
Mike Perry
http://so.fscked.org
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1. Yes you're way off. Use the rms width.
2. Yes 2B and yes -B to B..... But where is that in the problem.... hmmmm I
didn't see it... anyhow problem 2 is much easier check notes for simple
equations and the assumptions for their use (no integration req).
3. Cuz if i post here my q's will never be answered by due date :)

Mike Perry <mikepery@is.so.fscked.org> wrote in message
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> Ok, so I have another barrage of last minute questions:
> 1. In problem 3.1, I'm getting Acos(Wot)*Acos(Wot) after I simplify. From
> looking at the convolution integral, that looks infinite. Looking at it in
> fourier domain, it aprears to be just A^2cos(Wot)... I'm way off track
here,
> aren't I?
>
> 2. Say I have a signal with baseband -B to B. When talking in terms of low
> pass filters, is the bandwith of a filter that would allow such a signal
B, or
> 2B? And do you say a LPF of 0 to B? or a LPF of -B to B?
>
> 3. How come I'm the only one to post HW questions to the newsgroup? ;)
>
> --
> Mike Perry
> http://so.fscked.org


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1. Acos(Wot)*Acos(Wot) is convliution of a pulse with another pulse, why
is it infinity.
2. Band width is B for such a case by convention.

..vikas

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Mike Perry wrote:

> Ok, so I have another barrage of last minute questions:
> 1. In problem 3.1, I'm getting Acos(Wot)*Acos(Wot) after I simplify. From
> looking at the convolution integral, that looks infinite. Looking at it in
> fourier domain, it aprears to be just A^2cos(Wot)... I'm way off track here,
> aren't I?
> 
> 2. Say I have a signal with baseband -B to B. When talking in terms of low 
> pass filters, is the bandwith of a filter that would allow such a signal B, or
> 2B? And do you say a LPF of 0 to B? or a LPF of -B to B?
> 
> 3. How come I'm the only one to post HW questions to the newsgroup? ;)
> 
> -- 
> Mike Perry
> http://so.fscked.org
> 

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I don't know about the rest of you. But i had some issues with #2 and the
part of #3 we never covered in class.... I wanna learn this stuff cuz it's
pertenant to my field of work so I'd like to see the due date pushed to
tuesday so i can ask q's and so we can cover the homework in terms of
material. I got most of it done because of knowledge of previous class but
this can not be fair to those ppl seeing this for first time... Anyhow, just
my opinion.
-Rob



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Hi Rob,

If you check your notes, you will realize that problems 3.2 and 3.3 were
indeed covered in class (in fact, we spend about a lecture on this
material).  Part of it also appears in the textbook.

C. Hadjicostis.


PS:  Which is the previous class that you are referring too?


On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Rob Wade wrote:

> I don't know about the rest of you. But i had some issues with #2 and the
> part of #3 we never covered in class.... I wanna learn this stuff cuz it's
> pertenant to my field of work so I'd like to see the due date pushed to
> tuesday so i can ask q's and so we can cover the homework in terms of
> material. I got most of it done because of knowledge of previous class but
> this can not be fair to those ppl seeing this for first time... Anyhow, just
> my opinion.
> -Rob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Sorry about that that was meant for another class... opps :)

hadjicostis christoforos n <chadjic@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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>
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> If you check your notes, you will realize that problems 3.2 and 3.3 were
> indeed covered in class (in fact, we spend about a lecture on this
> material).  Part of it also appears in the textbook.
>
> C. Hadjicostis.
>
>
> PS:  Which is the previous class that you are referring too?
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Rob Wade wrote:
>
> > I don't know about the rest of you. But i had some issues with #2 and
the
> > part of #3 we never covered in class.... I wanna learn this stuff cuz
it's
> > pertenant to my field of work so I'd like to see the due date pushed to
> > tuesday so i can ask q's and so we can cover the homework in terms of
> > material. I got most of it done because of knowledge of previous class
but
> > this can not be fair to those ppl seeing this for first time... Anyhow,
just
> > my opinion.
> > -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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Dear Prof or TA,

I have a quick question about the solution (Set 7) that was passed out
today.  In part 7.3, the defined quantity C is given as

sqrt( 4*ln(sqrt(2)*p0/p1))

For p1 > sqrt(2)*p0, C is imaginary, and so the decision rule given
doesn't make sense to me.  Is there supposed to be an |x| in there
somewhere?  If so, could you also tell how this affects the subsequent
parts?

Then in part(c), the definition of C is changed to 4*ln(sqrt(2)*p0/p1), but
again I don't follow.

Thanks,
Mark




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Hi Mark,

I am glad that you brought this up.  In fact, we have actually talked with
some students about this issue during office hours...  Here are some
clarifications:

1) If sqrt(2)*p0/p1 is greater than 1, then the solution in parts a) 
and b) stands as given.

2) If sqrt(2)*p0/p1 is smaller than 1, then the decision rule is always
going to decide H1 (because exp{r^2 / 4} is always greater or equal than
1).  Therefore, in part b), the probability of error is the probability 
that H0 takes place (i.e., Pr(error) = p0).

3) In part c), the definition of C should have been as in part a).  In
addition, it should say that C is IMAGINARY if sqrt(2)*p0/p1 is smaller
than 1.  In such case, however, it is clear that the rule will always
decide in favor of H1:  to see this, we actually have to look at the
decision rule BEFORE taking the logarithm (and realize that e to a
positive power is always larger or equal to 1). 

I hope this helps,
Chris.



On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Mark Brady wrote:

> Dear Prof or TA,
> 
> I have a quick question about the solution (Set 7) that was passed out
> today.  In part 7.3, the defined quantity C is given as
> 
> sqrt( 4*ln(sqrt(2)*p0/p1))
> 
> For p1 > sqrt(2)*p0, C is imaginary, and so the decision rule given
> doesn't make sense to me.  Is there supposed to be an |x| in there
> somewhere?  If so, could you also tell how this affects the subsequent
> parts?
> 
> Then in part(c), the definition of C is changed to 4*ln(sqrt(2)*p0/p1), but
> again I don't follow.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Some of the math is frustrating me.... I took this stuff 3 yrs ago. Anyhow I
was wondering if the TA could add or change office ours to a diff time...
Let me know, any time on mon, wed, or friday NOT between 3-5pm would work or
after 3pm on tues / thurs. Maybe add another TA for the course considering
the class size and the fact that the current TA must be real busy. :~) Just
a thought.
Thanks,
-Rob


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I already have office hours on Friday also from 12.00 to 1.50 in addition
to Wednesday from 3 to 5.
..vikas


On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Rob Wade wrote:

> Some of the math is frustrating me.... I took this stuff 3 yrs ago. Anyhow I
> was wondering if the TA could add or change office ours to a diff time...
> Let me know, any time on mon, wed, or friday NOT between 3-5pm would work or
> after 3pm on tues / thurs. Maybe add another TA for the course considering
> the class size and the fact that the current TA must be real busy. :~) Just
> a thought.
> Thanks,
> -Rob
> 
> 
> 

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Hi all,
Last year's Exam 2 has been posted on the webpage. You can access it
through the old exmas button at the bottom or the complete URL is
http://www.ece.uiuc.edu/ece359/old_exams/old_exams.html

Good luck.
..vikas

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I was just wondering if anyone found or picked up a Lathi book in the
conference room during Prof. Hadjicostis's office hours today. I think I
left mine in there. Thanks for your help! 

		Chris

					



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Can someone help explain what and how MMSE is used I'm confused. It never
made sense in class. A generic layman terms explaination will do.
Thanks,
-Rob


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The MMSE is an estimator for a certain quantity X based on measurements of
a different quantity Y.  In the setting we discussed in class, we assumed
that we have a probabilistic setting that describes how X and Y are
related (for example, we know the joint density of X AND Y, or we know the
conditional probability density of X given Y=y for every value of y).
Based on these probabilistic relations between X and Y we showed that
given the observation that Y=y, the estimator
Xhat(y) = E[X|Y=y]
is the estimate of X that minimizes the mean square error, i.e., it
minimizes the E[(Xhat(y)-X)^2].  We also argued that it minimizes the
conditional mean square error, i.e., E[(Xhat(y)-X)^2 | Y=y] for every
possible y.

I hope this helps.  Good luck to everybody tomorrow.

C. Hadjicostis


On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Rob Wade wrote:

> Can someone help explain what and how MMSE is used I'm confused. It never
> made sense in class. A generic layman terms explaination will do.
> Thanks,
> -Rob
> 
> 
> 
> 

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My office hours tomorrow will be delayed by 30 mins. So I will be there
from 12.30 to 1.50.
..vikas

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In response to many requests I will have office hours tomorrow
afternoon from 2-3 in my office (148 C&SRL).  In case a lot of people
show up, we will move into 154 C&SRL.

Of course, Vikas will have his regular office hours from 3-5 in 
330N Everitt Lab.

C. Hadjicostis.

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Are we going to get a bigger classroom??



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Solution to prob 11.4 is wrong. Here we should proceed by expressing the
given process in terms of its quadrature and in-phase components. Both of
these will be found to be gaussian. This has also been worked out on page
519 of the book in the section "Bandpass white gaussian Random process".
The pdf of the envelope of two gaussian pdf's is actually a Rayleigh pdf
as shown in example 10.14 of the book. So the answer is that the pdf of
the envelope will be a Rayleigh density.
..vikas

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Given that we did not complete the discussion on bandpass noise today,
problems 10.5-10.8 will not be due this Thursday.  They will be
included in the next problem set.

Chris Hadjicostis

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Just wondering if the office hours for tomorrow morning are on and if so
when and where.
Thanks,
-Rob


--
Robert Wade
Computer Engineering Senior
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
rwwade@uiuc.edu



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I will be having office hours tomorrow (Wednesday) at 1:00 in my 
office.    
 
Also, this question came up with some students so I thought it would 
help the rest of you:  in problem 10.4, the signal m(t) is 
deterministic.  Therefore, you have to use the power of the message 
signal (instead of the average power of the message signal) in 
calculating the SNR. 
 
--CH 


On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Rob Wade wrote:

> Just wondering if the office hours for tomorrow morning are on and if so
> when and where.
> Thanks,
> -Rob
> 
> 
> --
> Robert Wade
> Computer Engineering Senior
> University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
> rwwade@uiuc.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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The old final exam and Problem set 11 has been posted on the web page.
The url for the old exam is :
http://www.ece.uiuc.edu/ece359/old_exams/old_exams.html

Good luck.
..vikas

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A review session for ECE 359 will be held from 5-7 on Wednesday in
room 161 Everitt Laboratory.  Vikas will answer questions and go over 
last year's exam.

Vika's office hours from 3-5 on Wednesday are CANCELLED.

C. Hadjicostis.


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hello people,
 A review session will be held on Monday the 6th Nov. from 5.00 to 7.00 pm
in Room 161 EL. Problems from exam 2, fall 99 will be discussed.
 ..vikas


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There will be a review session on Friday from 5.00 to 7.00 in room 161EL.
I will go ove last year's final exam.
..vikas

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There is a typo in problem 3.3.  The signal m(t) should be defined as
sinc(2 pi t / T).  I hope this has not created too much of a problem.

C. Hadjicostis


PS:  If you have solved the problem using the stated m(t), you do NOT have
to redo the problem.
 

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Welcome to ECE359 Communications-I for FAll 2000. The prime purpose of
this newsgroup is to facilitate discussion among the students taking this
class. Please note the following policies regarding the usage of this
group.

1. Discussion among students is strongly encouraged on the group. You can
post doubts you have or confusions regarding homework assignments. DO NOT
post explicit solutions or answers to assignments before it is due.

2. Do not expect the TA or the professor to check messages all day. The
messages will be checked at least once a day (mostly evenings) on week
days. 

3. Keep looking at the posted messages so that you do not ask questions
which have already been asked. Redundant questions may not be answered.
The newsgroup is a good place to look for typos/errors in assignments.

4. Only messages pertinent to the course should be posted. 

Good Luck and have fun.

Vikas
ECE359 TA


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Could a TA/Prof. please resolve the definitions of the Fourier transform and
sinc function?

In Lathi, (the required text), sinc is defined in the manner of sin(x)/x,
which is the same as in 210, 310, and 320.  Today in lecture, sinc(x) was
defined as sin(pi*x)/(pi*x).

In Lathi, the CTFT (Continuous-Time Fourier Transform) is defined as
Integral(x(t)*e^(-j*omega*t)dt) (from -inf to +inf).  Today in class it was
presented as Integral(x(t)*e^(-j*2*pi*f*t)dt) (from -inf to +inf).

How do we do the homework? Exams?  For example, HW 1.5 ?

Thanks
Mark


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The Fourier equations you wrote are both the same.  Omega=2*pi*f.

===================================================
William W. Ho
University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, ECE
Chief Financial Officer, OTCR
Teaching Assistant, ECE 290


"You treat a disease, you win or lose.  You treat a patient, I guarantee
you always win!"

			Patch, "Patch Adams"

On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Mark Brady wrote:

> Could a TA/Prof. please resolve the definitions of the Fourier transform and
> sinc function?
> 
> In Lathi, (the required text), sinc is defined in the manner of sin(x)/x,
> which is the same as in 210, 310, and 320.  Today in lecture, sinc(x) was
> defined as sin(pi*x)/(pi*x).
> 
> In Lathi, the CTFT (Continuous-Time Fourier Transform) is defined as
> Integral(x(t)*e^(-j*omega*t)dt) (from -inf to +inf).  Today in class it was
> presented as Integral(x(t)*e^(-j*2*pi*f*t)dt) (from -inf to +inf).
> 
> How do we do the homework? Exams?  For example, HW 1.5 ?
> 
> Thanks
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 

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"William W. Ho" <who@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
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> The Fourier equations you wrote are both the same.  Omega=2*pi*f.

That's true.  What I mean to ask is: when we're asked to take a Fourier
transform, are we looking for a result with omega's or f's in it?  Or no
difference?

thanks
-Mark

(and also the def'n of sinc?)


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Mark Brady wrote:

> "William W. Ho" <who@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> Pine.GSO.4.10.10008312343570.9187-100000@ux11.cso.uiuc.edu...
> > The Fourier equations you wrote are both the same.  Omega=2*pi*f.
>
> That's true.  What I mean to ask is: when we're asked to take a Fourier
> transform, are we looking for a result with omega's or f's in it?  Or no
> difference?
>
> thanks
> -Mark
>
> (and also the def'n of sinc?)

Both William and Mark raise good points.  Ideally, we should be able to
work with both omega's and f's and with both definitions of the sinc
function.  To make our life simpler, however, we will follow the notation
of the textbook.  Therefore, we will express Fourier transforms in terms of
omega and the sinc(x) as sin(x)/x.

To make sure that everything is clear, I will make an announcement on
Tuesday in class.

--
Christoforos Hadjicostis
Assistant Professor
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
148 Computer and Systems Research Laboratory
1308 West Main Street
Urbana, IL 61801

Tel: 217-265-8259
Fax: 217-244-1653
email: chadjic@control.csl.uiuc.edu
http://www.ece.uiuc.edu/fachtml/hadjicostis.html


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Just had to post that after that test.... The avg becomes ever so much more
important now. :)
-Rob



